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		<title>By: Creating &#38; Updating Student Files &#171; Music Teacher&#8217;s Helper Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.musicteachershelper.com/blog/taking-on-new-students-developing-an-audition-process/comment-page-1/#comment-122605</link>
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		<description>[...] a student audition process and an audition sheet. (Or take notes on the reverse of the student data sheet.)  Include [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sarah Luebke</title>
		<link>http://www.musicteachershelper.com/blog/taking-on-new-students-developing-an-audition-process/comment-page-1/#comment-105068</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Luebke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer some of your questions:

dveej-
I find that even if I do a little bit of a phone interview, I usually need to work with someone first before I get a feel of their character and work ethic.  I admit, I am a type A personality and like productive lessons.  Even if my students are low key, I still want to make sure someone is actually going to practice from week to week and not expect that I teach them absolutely everything without practice.  This is usually when I do not accept a student- not because they show no musical promise- but when they want a quick fix (think American Idol auditions!) with minimal effort.  I usually tell them that that&#039;s not my style of teaching, and give them another teacher suggestion.

Christian-
I typically don&#039;t get flack from parents about the audition lesson.  Usually I will coin in as a &quot;trail lesson&quot; to take the pressure off of the incoming student.  I understand that most of us private music teachers are probably not &quot;household names&quot;, but most of my students come to me through referrals, and I have a waiting list, so that does say something.  I wouldn&#039;t want to sign up a student who is again looking for a &quot;quick fix&quot; or is being pushed to do lessons from their mother and has no real interest, so an audition lesson gives a cushion to decide if this is a good fit.

Petra-
Your comment is completely valid.  I teach students at a variety of ages and levels.  Mostly in the audition lesson, I&#039;m trying to get information that I can&#039;t get over the phone.  I get a sense of their work ethic, their drive, and also their voice and music skills.  I recently auditioned at 13 year old who has a very young voice, but has a great ear, and I sensed a lot of determination.  Though musically she can&#039;t read music as well as my high-schoolers, I gave her a lesson time because I admired her spirit and wanted to teach her.

Leah-
I have not let students go because of practice negligence yet.  Mostly I let students go who skip lessons without notification, consistently pay late, etc.  Usually those people who disrespect my time are also students who don&#039;t practice, so I guess that works out.

Christine-
I do charge for the trial lesson.  I charge students in my studio a monthly tuition, so the first lesson is pro-rated.  When I first started teaching, I tried a &quot;free trial lesson&quot;- what a mistake!  I blocked out hours for people who never showed up!!  Never again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer some of your questions:</p>
<p>dveej-<br />
I find that even if I do a little bit of a phone interview, I usually need to work with someone first before I get a feel of their character and work ethic.  I admit, I am a type A personality and like productive lessons.  Even if my students are low key, I still want to make sure someone is actually going to practice from week to week and not expect that I teach them absolutely everything without practice.  This is usually when I do not accept a student- not because they show no musical promise- but when they want a quick fix (think American Idol auditions!) with minimal effort.  I usually tell them that that&#8217;s not my style of teaching, and give them another teacher suggestion.</p>
<p>Christian-<br />
I typically don&#8217;t get flack from parents about the audition lesson.  Usually I will coin in as a &#8220;trail lesson&#8221; to take the pressure off of the incoming student.  I understand that most of us private music teachers are probably not &#8220;household names&#8221;, but most of my students come to me through referrals, and I have a waiting list, so that does say something.  I wouldn&#8217;t want to sign up a student who is again looking for a &#8220;quick fix&#8221; or is being pushed to do lessons from their mother and has no real interest, so an audition lesson gives a cushion to decide if this is a good fit.</p>
<p>Petra-<br />
Your comment is completely valid.  I teach students at a variety of ages and levels.  Mostly in the audition lesson, I&#8217;m trying to get information that I can&#8217;t get over the phone.  I get a sense of their work ethic, their drive, and also their voice and music skills.  I recently auditioned at 13 year old who has a very young voice, but has a great ear, and I sensed a lot of determination.  Though musically she can&#8217;t read music as well as my high-schoolers, I gave her a lesson time because I admired her spirit and wanted to teach her.</p>
<p>Leah-<br />
I have not let students go because of practice negligence yet.  Mostly I let students go who skip lessons without notification, consistently pay late, etc.  Usually those people who disrespect my time are also students who don&#8217;t practice, so I guess that works out.</p>
<p>Christine-<br />
I do charge for the trial lesson.  I charge students in my studio a monthly tuition, so the first lesson is pro-rated.  When I first started teaching, I tried a &#8220;free trial lesson&#8221;- what a mistake!  I blocked out hours for people who never showed up!!  Never again!</p>
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		<title>By: Christine O\'Meally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine O\'Meally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wondering - do you charge for this evaluation or not? I personally would to weed out those not really serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wondering &#8211; do you charge for this evaluation or not? I personally would to weed out those not really serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah Couts</title>
		<link>http://www.musicteachershelper.com/blog/taking-on-new-students-developing-an-audition-process/comment-page-1/#comment-104800</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah Couts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have a waiting list, and I also have about 5 students that I feel are wasting my and their time as they do no practice and are always unprepared (and these are adults). I find that if I can&#039;t figure out why they are there in the first place, it is extremely hard to connect with them.

I don&#039;t mind the level of my students at all, and I love beginners (I am a piano teacher)and I also have all the patience in the world for those who make the effort. Now that I can afford to be choosy, I am considering laying the hard word on those who are not meeting my expectations, and explain that I have people waiting who may be more &#039;deserving&#039; of their spot. I just need to figure out how to do this in a diplomatic way. It will either have the student knuckle down and do some work, or leave, in which case I can take someone else from my list.

It does feel nice to be in a position to take on the types of students that I want now though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have a waiting list, and I also have about 5 students that I feel are wasting my and their time as they do no practice and are always unprepared (and these are adults). I find that if I can&#8217;t figure out why they are there in the first place, it is extremely hard to connect with them.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind the level of my students at all, and I love beginners (I am a piano teacher)and I also have all the patience in the world for those who make the effort. Now that I can afford to be choosy, I am considering laying the hard word on those who are not meeting my expectations, and explain that I have people waiting who may be more &#8216;deserving&#8217; of their spot. I just need to figure out how to do this in a diplomatic way. It will either have the student knuckle down and do some work, or leave, in which case I can take someone else from my list.</p>
<p>It does feel nice to be in a position to take on the types of students that I want now though!</p>
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		<title>By: Petra Raspel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petra Raspel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>being a singing teacher with a waiting list myself, i simply tell people that they have to wait. i do not audition and basically still take on people of all abilities when i have spaces, since this, imho, is the fascinating part of teaching.
your audition process seems to be the one that joan frey boytim uses and describes in one of her books (for the non-singers: she is a household name) - fair enough, but also a bit elitist. just my point of view of course, since the decision not to take on everyone is of course valid if you would rather work with more advanced people or at leat those who already have some basic musical understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>being a singing teacher with a waiting list myself, i simply tell people that they have to wait. i do not audition and basically still take on people of all abilities when i have spaces, since this, imho, is the fascinating part of teaching.<br />
your audition process seems to be the one that joan frey boytim uses and describes in one of her books (for the non-singers: she is a household name) &#8211; fair enough, but also a bit elitist. just my point of view of course, since the decision not to take on everyone is of course valid if you would rather work with more advanced people or at leat those who already have some basic musical understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Canalita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Canalita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed this article.  I would like to audition students as well because I feel there&#039;s some students that just aren&#039;t making the effort to practice. 

However, from reading your article, I put myself in the shoes of a parent interested in signing up my son/daughter.  I asked myself, &quot;Who are you?  You&#039;re not a household name and why do you believe you&#039;re in a position to select students?&quot;  I know that sounds harsh but I can see a parent asking this. 

If this is asked, how can I justify these questions? 

Christian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed this article.  I would like to audition students as well because I feel there&#8217;s some students that just aren&#8217;t making the effort to practice. </p>
<p>However, from reading your article, I put myself in the shoes of a parent interested in signing up my son/daughter.  I asked myself, &#8220;Who are you?  You&#8217;re not a household name and why do you believe you&#8217;re in a position to select students?&#8221;  I know that sounds harsh but I can see a parent asking this. </p>
<p>If this is asked, how can I justify these questions? </p>
<p>Christian</p>
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		<title>By: dveej</title>
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		<dc:creator>dveej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...oh wait, actually you did kind of mention it...</description>
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		<title>By: dveej</title>
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		<dc:creator>dveej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a great post - and with slight modification the basic idea can be used by teachers of other instruments. One thing you didn&#039;t mention is that starting out with an audition sets the tone of what is expected and required for future lessons, should the auditioner go on to take lessons.
I would like to read how you have handled audition &quot;rejects&quot;, and reasons why they were rejected, with as specific details as you feel would be safe/ethical to post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a great post &#8211; and with slight modification the basic idea can be used by teachers of other instruments. One thing you didn&#8217;t mention is that starting out with an audition sets the tone of what is expected and required for future lessons, should the auditioner go on to take lessons.<br />
I would like to read how you have handled audition &#8220;rejects&#8221;, and reasons why they were rejected, with as specific details as you feel would be safe/ethical to post.</p>
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